Daily Chit Chat

Carol, I have looked at your posts about a new Gypsy have they told you how you can re-load your carts on the new machine because I was told that I would have to send a new one (that is if I bought one) and then send it to the US so that it can be re-serialised. If you can do it via Holland why cannot I buy one here and send it there rather than the US?

Hi Pam I thought it was US CArol was talking too not Holland. Kars(Holland) became Provocraft when Bramwells (I think it was that name) gave up being distributor as they could not cope with the iratic deliveries from Provocraft. Since then C&C have become official distributors, now havinghad loads of arguments over 'official distributorship' and what is the responsibility of them and not I would have expected C&C to be able to help as official distributor. Where did Carol buy hers from and where did you buy yours from Pam? MY first port of call would always be the place I bought from as they have taken my money so it should be up to them to help sort any issues especially on goods from outside UK.
I am absolutly shattered at the moemnt and wonder when the less fraught times might come! Dom did his bronze D of E this weekend so we wait to hear whether they will be passed or not. He planned the route and had to work in a team of four, he provided his tent which two should have slept in and then there should have been another tent for the other two, they had borrowed it from cadets! Well that was the start of chaos, the poles were broken in the borrowed tent so they all had to cram into Dom's !!!!! Then I had ordered him a solar back up battery for his iphone so he could stay in touch as they dont have adults accompanying them on the actual D of E like they did in the practice. Paid extra for fast delivery and it arrived Friday morning spoke to the company as to whether I should stick it on a windowsill to get a head start whilst Dom was at school and was told I could do but I could also connect it to laptop/computer and charge it that way so I attached it to my laptop for 5 hours you would think that was a good boost and start. Then of they set at 525pm Friday. By 12 noon Saturday Dom was ringing me to say only 30% left on his phone and backup was not charging his phone as they said it would, could I meet him at evening camp site and charge his iphone in the car, so off I set at about 6pm and drove up to Carsington (30mins from me) and stayed trying to charge his phone which by then was on 1%!!! After 20 mins it was on 2% so I ended up driving home putting it on mains to charge it and eating and cooking dinner for John and I and then at 820pm I was getting calls Mum I am tired is it fully charged everybody else gone to sleep and I am waiting for you, so I drove back to carsington with it plugged in to car charging it some more as I drove and he got it with about 50% battery. Without his phone his group was stuffed as nobody else took theirs and he had to borrow one from another group to call me and the supervisor needed to stay in touch with them so he had to have his working!! God do I feel out of pocket and knackered. They only need to walk 6 hours for Bronze and doing it through cadets it is a weekend event so they walked 9 hours Saturday 5 hours yesterday!!!! They have to take it in turns in a group doing jobs, he had planned the route and twice with other map readers in the team reading they got lost and added miles to their walk so whether they have passed or not I do not know!!!!! Fingers crossed they have after all the effort.
Amber poorly again with blinding headache and bad stomach ache.
Hope everybody else well.

Sorry if I've caused confussion! When they serialised the new gypsy, they will use the old number registered with them, they had all my details on their system. When I get the new gypsy I just plug it in and it recognises my backup from previous times and all the data from other gypsy that is on my computer. I just hope it's not the data that's at fault since it was an update that I think caused the problem, especially since loads if people have had an update problem. So I could be back to square one!!!

I didn't know there was a Provocraft in holland. They never mentioned that to me, I will keep everybody in the know!!!

I bought mine from C&C when it was on offer. Since it is outside it's warranty, with some issues provocraft cover upto 15 months but I think since I mentioned the update problems, they said I was an 'exception'. Oh I feel so special!!!!! Stop laughing! You all know I don't do things by halves, in our house they say 'if it's not broken, keep it away from mum'! I got in tiuch originally with Nigel on create and craft and he was superb, Melanie also gave me a contact number but I had already been in touch with Wayne Meadows at Provocraft by then. Wayne passed my problem onto another helpful guy and then I spoke to pj or JP???? Let's see what happens when new one arrives!!!!

I wonder what is the warranty regards to updates, since they are ongoing, if your machine/s stop working due to update, then it must be upto Provocraft to sort out. My gypsy didn't stop working because I had dropped it or something like that!

Pam, I think if you bought a new gypsy yourself, you probably would have to send it to them but I cannot see why, if they have all your details on the system, why you cannot give them the new serial number for them to change their details! I am ok because they are exchanging it for me.

Sandra, can you send me the cut file so I know what everybody is talking about. Is it the swirl or lantern shape?????

Apeldoorn is in Holland and that is where the C&C Customer Service Dept. is, I have already spoken to them and they put me onto Provocraft in the US. I am still looking for my Gypsy so buying a new one will have to wait for the time being.

Somewhere on one of my posts was the number to ring from the UK, I hope it was cheaper, I was on hold for ages, this is when I spoke to JP and asuned he was in the US. He was so helpful!

Carol it's the spiral One I did it on my gypsy if you want the file send my you email and I will send it you

Where is everybody?

Liz, how is it at 'Camp Family', are you still surviving?

Sandra, how is your hubbie doing? Did you get my email with my email details?

Pam, have you found your Gypsy yet? My new one came yesterday but the George wont link to it for some reason so they are sending me out another one.

Does anybody need a George cartridge that has been previously linked to the Gypsy?

Hope everybody is ok,

I feel like Billy No Mates!!!!!!!


Carol XX

New contact name on that number Provocraft gave me. Leanne, she was very helpful as well!

I must admit, Provocraft have given better customer service than a lot of companies I have had the displeasure of dealing with, puts a lot of companies to shame!!!!!!

Hi Carol yes I got your email address will send the file to day have been using my iPad to do all the forum need to put computer on to send file to you
Hubby is in a very lot of pain had the doc twice and the palliative nurse came yesterday she has got the doc to give him something else for the pain she could not understand why his chest specialist has made him wait two weeks to see the cancer specialist and why he as just made it for the local clinic instead of at christys she said he should of sent him straight o christys to save time as he is in so much pain so holding he will send him straight in tomorrow

To install my George cart on my gypsy I had to install it from my expression to my gypsy have you tried that way the cut file I am sending you uses george

Sandra, I am so sorry to hear your husband is in so much pain, I cannot believe the doctor either.

The George, I have tried upside down, back to front and any other way, and also linking the gypsy to the Expression with the George in the slot and trying to link it that way but it didnt work.

What buttons did you use on the George, mind you, if they are sending me another one, then I will have to wait probably only a week. My Gypsy came so quick and they had given it the same serial number as my broken one.

I have the Plantin Schoolbook cartridge which has a lot of shapes etc, like the George.

Thinking of you!

Carol X

Hi folks, sorry I am missing so much but Amber is having major bullying issues in school and I hvae been summond to an 8am meeting with the head tomorrow! I have just spent an hour talking to the other girls mother who knew nothing about anything and is horrified that her troublesome daughter has taken Amber's life from her and that Amber deserves a life and school will know she is the catalyst as up to press the said girl has attacked her own mother and sister, been reported to police for it, kicked and attacked police and they have had to use battons on her and they keep her in school telling me none of this and maintaining Amber was safe and wasnt being bullied. So keep your fingers crossed for me and my meeting tomorrow, Amber having day off whilst this is resolved. Asuuring me she is safe when the girl is in the system for attacking her own Mum, safe - no I dont think so.

Good luck with Amber. Bullying - well, where do you start? Hope the school do the right thing! X x x

Liz, sorry to hear about Amber and hope things have been resolved by now.

Carol, I haven't found my Gypsy yet. Did you contact Mel Heaton about your George Cartridge and did you send an email to C&C yesterday if so did you hear it mentioned?

Thanks for the wishes but I am afraid Amber's situation is far from sorted. She has had the day off today to give school time to do something. They still have not spoken to the girls mother - Head of sixth form has left her a message, yet any other time they can drag her out of her own school duties in her primary school!!!! I will ring her in a while and see if all is well. I have been asked to give them until after half term to let them sort it and to send Amber in to school and turn down her sensitivity!!! So basically the care and concern of the other girl is dispraportionate to the care and concern over Amber. Amber's health must suffer to help the other girl - I dont think so! I really do not know what next week will bring but I do not see no matter how much we all want to help the other girl why it should be for Amber to suffer more, her health crumble so the other girl can be helped and her own Mum wants her expelling for it! John and I have spoken to more departments and got folks contacting folks as we live in one area and although the girl is probably 3 miles away she comes under different police etc so one set have to deal with another set to contact the other parent- ludicrous and makes it all very much like chinese whispers and we all know what happens to them. The school does not have to answer to the local council as it is an academy so we are stuffed there. We could take out a legal injuction but that is expensive and impractical to enforce unless school are prepared to help. So it seems we are stuffed all the way round, school is inefficient and Amber must suffer or give in.

Pam, I did send a message Mel but didnt hear it mentioned. I have a new George on the way!


Been upto Embsey today. Made a card with Katy, in aid of Manorlands near Keighley.

Morning ladies!


I got my George cartridge super quick. My Gypsy is now back to what it was, so I am happy again. Provocraft have been better than any uk company apart from create and craft/ideal world.

How is Amber?

Where is everybody?

Pam, where are you, Sandra - I didn't get your email! I'm all alone :-(


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Well we cant have that. I am lurking in the background, quite worn out and apprehensive each day as to what will happen next! Amber continues to give up her sixth form privilages and I continue to drive back and forth multiple times everyday, the other girl swans around. I end up each day more shattered than the day before and we are on the countdown for Anne-Marie to give birth - Nov 3rd!
Everyday Amber is not allowed in before 9am and Dom likes to be there by quarter to. Amber's first job is to hand in a book in sixth form office for them to read and sign of anything that happened the day before or is worrying her, then to registration then to class, all free lessons beginning of the day or end of the day are to be spent at home and any other free time is timetabled to specific rooms. She wanted chips yesterday lunchtime but she cannot go down to the village and get them as she should be able to do being a sixth former and so I had to drive from home, collect chips take them to her, sit with her whilst she ate them and stayed with her til end of lunch so she had a bit of a change otherwise it is literally bed and work! She is now receiving withheld number telephone calls where nobody speaks and all she hears on the answerphone message is a tv in background! So no better really and she is trying to keep head down and do all her work.
Dom off porrly today with a sore throat from a stinking cold he has aquirred but then they are swimming on a Friday morning in an outside pool and have to walk ages from and back to changing area in the cold!

Hi carol sorry forgot to send it will do it now had a crazy couple of weeks
Hubby saw the specialist from christys a week last wednsday and had the radiation therapy the next day thur Friday they took him in to the hospice to control the pain till the radiation dose it's work he is still in there don't know how long for as they have to keep tweekin the meds they said he should be ok after the radiation has stoped the cancer it could take upto a month before he is hopefully pain free

Liz what they are putting Amber through is disgraceful the other girl should be doing the suffering

Totally agree with you Sandra but the other party is having the sympathy card played for her as she said her Mum had kicked her out when she hadnt. The police need something serious to happen before they can do anything other than talk to both parties and ask them to play nocely and stay away from each other!! School have to somebody else see the looks, attacks etc before they can take action as it one girls word against another and the only way they can ensure Amber's safety and make her feel OK about going to school is to keep her with adults close bye or at home!!!! So good old Mum drives three times the distance each week, Amber wont go to town with non school friends incase they bump into each other and in school is tied down to specific rooms to ensure her safety and makes a daily log and the schools instructions are, no eye contact, no physical contact including brushing past each other in a corridor, if they see each other going down same corrridor turn on a sixpence and go another way, the other girl is not allowed in any rooms Amber is timetable to be in yet she was last week and was just going to be talked to this week! Very tired with it all and then I have to consider effect it has on Dom who is lower down the same school! He will only put up with so much, there is only him allowed to upset and attack his sister and then he will land her one, then he will be in trouble. Amber hasnt been to a discussion group meeting, church or youth club since it started in case the other girl went and most times she doesnt but as soon as Amber put her name down for a girlie discussion group meeting low and behold other girl wanted to go, so I have youth leader onside and she is using you cant be in same roo at same time at school and police have advised against it so I cant have you in same room, so as Amber put her name down first she can come and other girl must stay away!

Oh crikey! never thought a school would be so backwards in coming forwards in this day and age! Whatever are they thinking, it's like Amber is being punished all day and all night now! Can you go to the education authority at all?

Sandra, I sent you an email, I am totally confussed with the file you sent me, I welded the first layer because when I downloaded the file to my Gypsy it wasnt welded, must be something to do with cyberspace!!!!

The second layer got almost to the end before my paper decided not to stick to the mat, I will try that again but I have not got a clue what to do with the cut outs! Have you got a picture you can post?

You must have spent hours working that out, look forward to eventually cutting one out and assembling together.

Thanks again for that!

Carol X

Pam, where are you today? not Preston! it's very windy over that way............ and here come to think of it, called at Boundary Mills in Colne last night, was just getting dark when we went in - came out to the pitch black sky and torrential rain and howling winds, all in about 15 minutes at the most! I hate winter - nothing good comes of it when you are older, I hate the cold, I HATE the wind and dont like the snow anymore! Bahhhh humbug!!!!!!!!!! Can't you tell I am on my own today! hate that as well!

They are an Acadamy now and only answers to Govenors and part of the govenors are teachers involved in the decisions!

Great!!! looks like they are scarred of bullies as well.

Well it just got worse! Internets gone off!!!!! Sending this on my phone if you were wondering! It's just getting better today! Oh well, anybody for a cuppa?

Could murder one, preferably with a brandy in!